GoDaddy.com's Virtual Dedicated Server?

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GoDaddy.com's Virtual Dedicated Server?

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Is GoDaddy.com's Virtual Dedicated Server enough for installment and proper functioning for SmartFox Server?
https://www.godaddy.com/gdshop/hosting/ ... ay=virtual
If not is there some hosting package from GoDaddy.com that will do the job?
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Post by potmo »

I guess this is not the forum to ask. Why don't you ask GoDaddy.com?
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Post by dejanp »

Unfortunately most of support stuff at hosting companies don't have a clue what is SmartFox Server.
So I will be very grateful if you could help me, on the following link are all the details about their Virtual Dedicated Server, so can you please tell me if that's all I need for SmartFox Server to work properly
https://www.godaddy.com/gdshop/hosting/ ... ay=virtual
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Hi,
the plans in that web page don't state how much RAM is available in the VPS. Make sure that they at least provide 256Mb.
This is because you will need a minimum of 64Mb of free RAM to install and run SFS. 256 is the bare minimum to run the OS and a few other services.

If you can get more, it's even better.

Hope it helps
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Post by dejanp »

Thanx very much Lapo.
Can somebody please tell me is there a possibility that GoDaddy's Virtual Dedicated server doesn't work properly because of their settings with sockets?
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Post by Lapo »

Sorry, I don't know.
If they provide a "regular" VPS you shouldn't have problems, however if you have doubts just write them and explain that you're going to run a socket server that requires a minimum of 64Mb of free ram.
Ask them if they provide enough RAM in the system and if they block TCP ports from outside.
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Post by BattleSpace »

Hi,

I'm currently using a goDaddy.com virtual dedicated server for my SFS development environment. I haven't had any problems with it so I can confirm it will work. I added the Windows Server option and kept everything else basic. I pay less than $40 a month.

Before I rollout my site I will also setup a dedicated server but keep the virtual for dev/testing only.

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Post by WarpZone »

I haven't tried it yet, but I know that GoDaddy has this draconian "no game sites" policy. Supposedly this is to prevent people from running CounterStrike servers on the shared hosting machines and bogging everything down, but I don't see why they can't also say "Click here if you want to run an MMORPG from your GoDaddy site. Warning: You have to actually pay for the bandwidth if you use this service."

In practice I suppose as long as whatever package you signed up for allows you to run the SFS technology on the server, I don't see why it wouldn't work for development purposes. But they could yank the rug out from under you at any time if your usage starts to get too extreme, or if somebody reports you.

I'd imagine the realtime authoritative servers are more likely to raise red flags than a turn-based game that just hits a PHP page with an HTTP request every time the user clicks, or that a 20-user beta test will survive longer than anything with 1000 users or unlimited users, but this is pure speculation.

I've spent most of today shopping around for other hosts, and so far it looks like the rule of thumb is: "If their site design looks like Godaddy's, and they toss around the phrase 'unlimited bandwidth' in their advertising, they're pretty much guaranteed to have a 'low ram usage' or 'no games' policy in their ToS."

Based on the blogs of other little upstart web-based MMOs such as KoL, and even extremely popular websites, it looks like if you develop a bandwidth-intensive application of any sort, you're pretty much doomed to first get kicked out of all the free hosts, then get kicked out of Godaddy and other budget web hosting programs that claim to offer "unlimited blah", then you'll switch to a more expensive Dedicated Hosting package, then that company will drop the ball a few times as the server crashes or whatever and they can't seem to get around to fixing it for hours or even days at a time. You will lose customers over this. Then you'll switch to a different Dedicated Host because your friend recommended it and things might be okay for a while, until they get bought up by some damn conglomorate. Eventually, if you survive all of these transitions without losing your shirt, or if your players are devoted enough to cover your ass every time they spring some insane surcharges on you for "policy violation," you'll finally break and just buy your own damn rack and run it out of your freaking apartment.

Except I'm not sure if they still let you do that these days.

That's the horror story: That it doesn't matter how trivial or easy or cheap SFS makes MMORPG development and implementation, because it's actually the ongoing costs and challenges of keeping the thing online that will eat you alive, and there's no good entry-level solution for that.

This is all based on heresay and guesswork, of course. I hope I'm wrong. But so far, I haven't found a good host. Godaddy works. Kinda. For a while. But their ToS says "no games," so I'm expecting them to pull the rug out from under me at any time during R&D, and I wouldn't dare try to go live using them. Certianly not with unlimited users, realtime gameplay, and an authoritative server.
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For production quality SmartFoxServer hosting plans we recommend -> http://www.shockwaveserver.com/
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